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| Friday, November 23, 2007 |
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rdwndysrf @
Sunday, December 09, 2007 2:43 PM
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Ron Paul has done more for Truth than all other politicians combined. Please take this post down, its a disgrace to the 9/11 Truth movement.
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Pat_Ferris @
Monday, December 10, 2007 5:49 AM
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The funny thing is that NONE of the Presidential candidates are biting into that apple at this moment. Politics sometimes warrants holding your cards until it's time to play them. So I guess it comes down to which of the NONE you support... Rudy? Hillary? or one of the other New World Order scumbags?
Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel are the only ones in the mix that aren't owned lock-stock-and-barrell by the Military Industrial Complex.
I never thought I would support another Republican but in 3 blind straw polls, Ron Paul was the clear leader over the other 19 candidates.
I'm hoping for a Paul/Kucinich ticket.
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Host @
Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:43 PM
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Bob Dennis... the Truth is the Truth. These are words from his own mouth. You may like him for other reasons and that is fine!
It is hipocritical to say that a direct recorded interview from Ron Paul clarifying his position on "9/11 Truth" and saying that he does NOT support the issues central to "9/11 Truth"... is some how a disgrace to the 9/11 Truth movement.
What is probably grating you is that he also says he does not have to defend what they (these kids on the internet) say, only what he says.
His position on whether 9/11 was an inside job...
"Absolutely Not!"
The only reason for removing this post as you suggest is to hide the truth.
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Pat_Ferris @
Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:49 AM
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So Mike Hagar... is your issue to poke pins in all the balloons of every 9/11 truther that doesn't share your opinion?
You alienate more people than you think with your blustery "I'm right and there is no other opinion" view, which is probably why nobody is in your group doing anything and anybody worth their salt left.
Furthermore, you haven't answered MY post of which one of the New World Order scumbags YOU are going to support...since ALL of the canidates have said publically that 9/11 wasn't an inside job? Let me guess... you're a Rudy guy aren't you?
Finally, "hipocritical"?
Ware did you lern two spel?
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Host @
Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:23 AM
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My issue is to post interesting facts. In this case, Ron Paul's own statements about 9/'11 Truth.
If you think I am alienating people with a "I'm right and there is no other opinion"...view, I will let anyone reading this conversation decide for themselves.
As for what you call "my group"... I never had a group. I actively participated in a group that was growing every month. After you, and others like you started coming with your attacks as demonstrated in this last "Fox News Style" attack on me, I got sick of it and stopped coming. So did everyone else I knew.
Frankly, your comments about me are the type of juvenile attacks that drive away new people and discourage them from getting and staying involved.
You are right though, I am not a good spellest.
But I would rather be a bad spellist than a nasty person.
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Benbo @
Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:37 PM
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Ron Paul is my favorite candidate too (or at least a close second to Dennis Kucinich) but that is no reason why Mike should bury the fact that Ron Paul said what he said.
Burying facts that happen not to agree with you is the same thing the 911 websites 911blogger and loosechange forum do when they ban anyone who discusses no-plane theory. I don't like it there and I wouldn't like it here.
Thanks Mike for keeping this space open to different facts and opinions.
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Pat_Ferris @
Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:29 AM
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So again.. you dodge the issue and duck the question. You should run for office.
As far as the choice between being illiterate and nasty, you win the big prize... you're BOTH!
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kfkonrad @
Monday, December 24, 2007 9:54 AM
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What's the big deal?
Ron Paul says that he "Absolutely does not believe that 9/11 was orchestrated by the government".
Excuse me, but that still leaves a lot of breathing room. "Inside Job", doesn't just mean the government,.
That, and I have seen many clips where Ron Paul states that he would endorse a new investigation. Isn't that what we're after?
I see people playing politics, instead of spreading the message. Get your heads on straight and focus!
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Host @
Monday, December 24, 2007 12:03 PM
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Welcome Home Kris. Hope things are well with you.
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kfkonrad @
Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:10 AM
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Life's good Mike, but I have to ask you to re-title this article. Ron Paul doesn't believe that the government carried out 9/11, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't believe in 9/11 truth, or that he believes the official story is true.
Honestly Mike... I would advise you to stay out of politics, and stick with September, 11th, 2001.
That's what 9/11 truth is about. Accountability of the events of that day, which the world still hasn't seen.
To think... nobody knows who did 9/11. Doesn't that strike you people as odd?
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Benbo @
Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:21 AM
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"To think... nobody knows who did 9/11. Doesn't that strike you people as odd? "
Not sure I follow you, Kris. Joe Sixpack thinks he knows who did 9[11, Osama bin Laden. What strikes me as odd is that all these people are not boiling mad at our govt. for not catching him if they really believe he is responsible. Can the populace really have their anger turned on and off so easily? Or is it that they suspect what we have been telling them is true, that it never was Osama at all.
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kfkonrad @
Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:28 PM
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I agree with you Ben, but I don't view most of the people as "Joe Sixpack".
In my experience, the majority of people see that there are some unanswered questions, but they don't want or know how to see the big picture, and/or they don't want to challenge the norm. It scares most people just to think about it.
"Men do things out of necessity", and until it becomes necessary for people to pay attention to what's going on, most people will just continue to carry on in their lives.
That's how much MSM controls the people.
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Host @
Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:36 PM
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I see your point about the Title so I have revised it to be less specific in what Ron Paul
"Honestly Mike... I would advise you to stay out of politics, and stick with September, 11th, 2001."
Hmmmm.
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kfkonrad @
Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:49 PM
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I appreciate that Mike.
The only thing I meant by staying out of politics, is that 9/11TruthSeattle.org should keep it's focus on 9/11 and not drift into the 2008 elections. Tempting as it may be, that is not what this site/organization focuses on.
I meant no insult to your own political views.
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Host @
Friday, December 28, 2007 12:45 PM
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Thanks Kris. I knew you would clarify your comments.
I have normally allowed all members to post anythng that they felt was relevant to 9/11 Truth as long as they didn't create a pattern and tone of hate and anger.
This is an important and pertanent election and I want to leave it open for Truthers to post thier take on the candidates. Other than that I have no desire to promote any themes or candidates.
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kfkonrad @
Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:01 AM
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That would be fine if people posted their points of views, but you are just about the only one that posts besides me.
Seems to me that you are either trying to stir some controversy, and/or you've lost your sense of good judgment.
You said you were gonna take a break Mike. Take it for fuck's sake, and quit trying to hold up the whole fucking world on your shoulders. The world, and the movement can and will continue on in your absence.
Sorry to be so blunt, but someone's gotta shoot you straight Mike.
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kfkonrad @
Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:02 AM
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oh... and it's "ORCHESTRATED".
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Host @
Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:17 PM
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Ok Kris, what is my crime? What have I said or done to justify this very personal attack. Is it just because of my one Ron Paul link? Something else?
As for your comments:
"Seems to me that you are either trying to stir some controversy, and/or you've lost your sense of good judgment."
One Ron Paul link? is that what qualifies as a loss of good judgement?
"quit trying to hold up the whole fucking world on your shoulders. The world, and the movement can and will continue on in your absence."
What is it that you think I have I done to justify this?
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Benbo @
Tuesday, January 01, 2008 1:18 PM
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"Orchestrated"??
Kris, that is a rather sour note on which to end the old year and start the new. What the H are you trying to say? And what's with all the angry blasts at Mike? If you got something to say, and you have to say it, then say it. Don't stage a hit-and-run.
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kfkonrad @
Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:21 PM
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lol... Sorry to leave you hanging Ben, but I decided to continue the conversation with Mike through email.
He hasn't answered me back yet though. ;(
And besides.... better get all the shit out before the New Year, so you can start out on the right foot. Right?
I really don't care about New Years anyways...
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kfkonrad @
Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:22 PM
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and yes... IT'S ORCHESTRATED!!!!
DAMNIT!!!!
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Host @
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:02 AM
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kfkonrad @
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:26 PM
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Orchestrated: to arrange, coordinate, or manipulate the elements of to achieve a goal or effect.
Specifically... I was referring to the spelling. Notice the title.
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Host @
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:48 PM
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Thanks for the clarification. I have fixed the spelling in the title. Good catch. I will have to watch my spelling more closely.
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