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09/13/2008 9:44 PM  


some scientific facts in regards to 911, WTC, Pentagon, and Pennsylvania:


WTC:

1- the World Trade Center buildings 1 and 2 that were hit by planes fell in about 10 seconds, which is about free fall speed; meaning they encountered no friction contradicting the official story that the floors pancake-ed down, which would have taken minutes and yet leave behind the central beam structure which also disappeared with the building.

2- World Trade Center building number 7, fell about six hours later in same demolition manner, when no plane had hit it and only had about two small fires.

3- No building, tall and/or small had in history crumbled due to fire, there are records of building that have been weaker in structure and burned for very much longer and yet not crumbled.

4- the crumbling of the World Trade Center buildings is very much like a controlled demolition, except that it is more of an explosion model than an implosion one.

5- jet fuel burns at 1200 F, whereas steel does not begin to melt 'till it reaches 2750 F and with much oxygen force injected.  While the World trade center buildings had fires for very short time (about ten minutes) and for the most part it was just plain smoke, which indicates a total lack of oxygen.

6- The World Trade Center buildings, being tall and facing danger of accidental plane crash, were designed to withstand not just one plane crash, but several.

7- the scientific facts indicate that the buildings were brought down by explosion and that the planes hitting the building were more for spectacular effect as a magician creates a visual distraction so as to hide the real physical mechanism that enables the act to take place.

8- The buildings were suspiciously put under reconstruction and open contractors reconstructing buildings for several weeks with all security shut down. The company that operated the building security was an Israeli company with Bush's brother as its chief for a while. The buildings cameras were rendered inoperative on the day of the 'attacks.'


The Pentagon:

9- it is yet not clear what hit the Pentagon. All store footage that recorded the object hitting the Pentagon were immediately confiscated by the FBI and have not been released today. Nevertheless:

10- The plane that is purported to have hit the Pentagon is to have made a 270 degree turn and flied a few meters above ground for hundreds of yards before hitting the Pentagon, a feat that many say would be difficult for even the top gun pilot what of the claimed hijacker that is recorded to have been a very pilot with very little training.

11- The main parts of a plane like an engine, etc were never found at the Pentagon site, the whole created in the wall does not fit the size of the plane and the plane seems to have evaporated out of existence.

12- The Pentagon was under investigation for a missing 3.2 trillion dollars and the area that was hit in the Pentagon was the accounting department that supposedly would have contained the documents for missing sum.  And, similarly, the World Trade Center 7 building not only contained New York City's emergency control center and headquarters for the FBI and CIA, it also contained all the files pertaining to the Enron investigation that got lost just the same.


Pennsylvania:

13- The flight over Pennsylvania is the one from which all cell phone communiques concerning hijacking are supposed to have been made.  cell phone calls have been proven to have been an impossibility from 33 thousand feet high. Later some of the official reports changed their story that some of the calls were made from the phones on the seats. But, some reports have pointed out that the plane over Pennsylvania had no such phone.  Furthermore, all planes communication mechanisms was shut down ten minutes into flight, whereby even the pilots were not able to communicate what if a passenger, who would have to go through same channels.

14- There were initial reports that the plane was shut down in Pennsylvania. The thirty mile or more spread of the planes crash seems to indicate that the plane was shut down as there is no crash site for the plane.

15- The hole in the ground that is purported to be the crash site has no evidence of a plane crash, as the planes parts are spread over a thirty mile radius or more. It is still questionable as to what that hole is, it certainly looks more like a rocket hit.

16- Thus, the whole story concerning passenger take over seems to be concocted.


Miscellanous:

17- None of the purported hijackers were on the initial list of passengers released for the planes.  Claims concerning the hijackers comes from passports found at sites of 'attack' where strangly and miraculously safe and sound passports were found whence everything else had exploded into powder form and/or disappeared and melted away altogether.

18- On Same day and same time Chenney was running manuever with a scenario just like what happened. The odds of such a coincidence is greater than the count of all grains of sand on planet earth. 'Miraculously' the same odds repeated themselves on 7/7 in the London bombings.

19- Black boxes for WTC planes were initially reported to have been found then the whole story killed. Black boxes should survive even an explosion.

20- Black box for Pennsylvania plane is still under lock and key and it is not clear as to what happen to the Pentagon black box if there ever was one.


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for more investigation:

Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth
http://www.ae911truth.org/

Firefighters for 911 Truth
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/

911 Mysteries (watch the documentary) part one
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871

visit the sight
http://www.911weknow.com/911-mysteries-movie.html

How Mossad Deceived the U.S. Military on 9/11
http://www.bollyn.com/index/?id=10761

9/11 False Flag
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4092196668758946293&q=9%2F11+False+Flag&ei=NmdySOq2JYyg4ALu1rCJDw

Alex Jones site has lots of video and info
http://www.infowars.com/

Seattle 911 Visibility Project
http://www.seattle911visibilityproject.org/

9/11 - An Inside Job?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/inside.html

Was 9/11 an Inside Job?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20521.htm

Fabled Enemies
http://www.911blogger.com/node/17456

Was America Attacked by Muslims on 9/11?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20722.htm


google:
- '911 Mysteries'
- 'was 911 a hoax'
- 'was 9 11 an inside job'
- 'was 911 a conspiracy'
- 'was 9 11 a inside job'
- '911 truth'
- '911 video'
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